HTTPD Auth?

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HTTPD Auth?

Post by jimh » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:56 pm

(Heh, they just started playing 99 Luftballons on Radio Paradise. I don't see that on Thorsten's 80s wish list!)

I may be in minority in employing phpMyFAQ on restricted intranet. That is my case, and we use Pubcookie (pubcookie.org) for user authentication against university ID/password, so I always have $SERVER[REMOTE_USER] available.

I see functions.php uses REMOTE_USER to assist with LDAP lookup. My question is whether this could be extended to make password optional (HTTPD Auth) -- even to auto-create non-privileged default user accounts at first visit.

If autocreated accounts, this would allow something like "My Questions" option (maybe that exists and I missed it) but user table would need to be extended to include uid/REMOTE_USER in addition to LDAP cn, I think.

It would be too much to ask a *third* feature question today, so I will just say:

Drupal integration? :)

I am pleased to be able to get back to setting up this very nice program.

Thanks!

Jim

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Post by matteo » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:04 am

Hi Jim,
AFAIK no one of the PMF users use a Pubcookie infrastructure: we'll talk internally how and when addressing such a(n interesting) request to balance new features requests, the current tasks plan and, last but not least, the spare time of the Dev Team Members ;).

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Web Auth

Post by jimh » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:24 am

matteo wrote:Hi Jim,
AFAIK no one of the PMF users use a Pubcookie infrastructure: we'll talk internally how and when addressing such a(n interesting) request to balance new features requests, the current tasks plan and, last but not least, the spare time of the Dev Team Members ;).

Ciao,
Matteo
Thanks.

I think I may be in minority (i.e. intranet/restricted access). Pubcookie is nice, but there are other Apache/Web server auth modules that wiill generate REMOTE_USER. I have seen other systems implement this simply as "WebAuth" or "SSO" where you simply intstruct the system to "trust REMOTE_USER completely". In one open-source application, MRBS, I use "Omni httpd auth" because that was what was already there; it's all the same.

In Drupal I am using a "WebLogin" module simply becuase I found it before I found a specific PubCookie extension. Either one works.

So I think this could be very generic with no special consideration of PubCookie. I have done this in a few small applications and I just use a stub of $userid="jimh"; to test if I am not authenticated and don't have REMOTE_USER but want to test.

Cheers,

Jim

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Re: Web Auth

Post by matteo » Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:37 pm

Hi,
jimh wrote:Pubcookie is nice, but there are other Apache/Web server auth modules that wiill generate REMOTE_USER. I have seen other systems implement this simply as "WebAuth" or "SSO" where you simply intstruct the system to "trust REMOTE_USER completely". In one open-source application, MRBS, I use "Omni httpd auth" because that was what was already there; it's all the same.
there're also several others SSO infrastructures that use specs like e.g. SAML, being more abstract and with a strong trust model. Generally speaking, trusting REMOTE_USER is not good but I recognize that often everything is trusted inside a LAN context.
Whilst 2.0.0 has a pluggable auth system, 1.6.x needs custom code on project basis. I'll look, time permitted, at how a simple hack could move the current LDAP code to something useful for your needs.

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Re: Web Auth

Post by jimh » Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:08 am

matteo wrote:Hi,
there're also several others SSO infrastructures that use specs like e.g. SAML, being more abstract and with a strong trust model. Generally speaking, trusting REMOTE_USER is not good but I recognize that often everything is trusted inside a LAN context.
Whilst 2.0.0 has a pluggable auth system, 1.6.x needs custom code on project basis. I'll look, time permitted, at how a simple hack could move the current LDAP code to something useful for your needs.

Ciao,
Matteo
Matteo,

I spent some time looking at 2.x roadmap and I installed 2.0 alpha in parallel. From my standpoint, if you were able to work something like this into auth model for 2.0, I don't see why you would want to spend time working on 1.6. But that's just me. I will try to look at 2.0 auth subsystem as it develops. Thanks! Jim

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LDAP and auto user create from REMOTE_USER

Post by jimh » Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:26 pm

I just returned from holiday and found the 2.x releases. Woohoo! The 1.6.8->2.0.1 update worked great.

So I guess now would be a good time to resurrect this feature question.

Since my application is a PubCookie-protected intranet that requires a valid user ID (from an Apache authgroupfile), I would like to automatically register users in phpMyFAQ upon first visit and add their LDAP ID/name/EMail with very limited initial privileges. I see some of the basic LDAP functions and the REMOTE_USER short name lookup function, but what would be the sanest way to add "auto user create"?

EDIT: I guess I should also restate that it would be desired to have this REMOTE_USER automatically log in without password. Now that we can assign owners to different categories, I expect we will have many more users who will need to log in to administer their categories' FAQs.

THANKS!

Jim

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Post by Thorsten » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:15 am

Hi,

we plan to add this - maybe in 2.1.0! The big problem will be that we need some testers for that. Would you like to support us here?

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Testing HTTPD auth?

Post by jimh » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:20 pm

Thorsten,

I would be pleased to do some testing of HTTPD auth functions. I have created 30-40 FAQs, but I have not put phpMyFAQ into general use yet, so I could afford to test on my existing installation.

Thanks!

Jim

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Re: Testing HTTPD auth?

Post by jimh » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:07 am

I have been sidetracked for a while, but I would still be interested in testing or working on this. It is starting to get dark and cold here -- so a better time to work on such things!

Jim

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Post by Thorsten » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:37 am

Hi Jim,

if you want to, you can start using phpMyFAQ 2.5.0-dev. Thanmk you very much!

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Re: HTTPD Auth?

Post by Thorsten » Tue May 12, 2009 10:29 am

Hi,

HTTP Auth is now implemented in phpMyFAQ 2.5.0.

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Re: HTTPD Auth?

Post by salnet » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:01 pm

Hello Thorsten,

it's a nice feature, thank you!
How can I use ist? I haven't found anything in Admin-Menu.

Kind regards,
Timo

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Re: HTTPD Auth?

Post by Thorsten » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:04 pm

Hi,

just add a .htaccess file in the phpMyFAQ root folder with the auth credentials. phpMyFAQ will automatically detect the authentication done by Apache.

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Re: HTTPD Auth?

Post by salnet » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:59 pm

Thanks for the explanation.

I renamed _.htaccess to .htaccess and inserted

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AuthUserFile /var/data/db/users/.htpasswd
AuthType Basic
require valid-user
The .htpasswd is ok, but the it seems not to work. After login with HTTP-Auth I'm still not logged in in pmf, the login-form in pmf is shown. When I insert any data from .htpasswd I can't login.

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Re: HTTPD Auth?

Post by Thorsten » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:10 pm

Hi,

okay... the HTTP Auth was a 30 minute hack... :oops:

I'll check this.

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