search terms ... exact search terms ... etc
Moderator: Thorsten
search terms ... exact search terms ... etc
Hi,
I am using version 2.8.1 now for a FAQ board with biblical studies, where quite often searches for verse references such as "1Mo 4" or "Joh 3,16" etc. are required to find articles with certain verses etc When entering Joh 3,16 I do get results for just the "Joh" part (many irrelevant articles included), but would want only the results with the exact match. I could not find any option where I could set an "exact" or at least "all terms", etc ... I tried enclosing the terms in quotes, but that did not really improve the search results as desired ... Perhaps I'm just "a little blind" and don't see what maybe right in front of my eyes?
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Wolfgang
I am using version 2.8.1 now for a FAQ board with biblical studies, where quite often searches for verse references such as "1Mo 4" or "Joh 3,16" etc. are required to find articles with certain verses etc When entering Joh 3,16 I do get results for just the "Joh" part (many irrelevant articles included), but would want only the results with the exact match. I could not find any option where I could set an "exact" or at least "all terms", etc ... I tried enclosing the terms in quotes, but that did not really improve the search results as desired ... Perhaps I'm just "a little blind" and don't see what maybe right in front of my eyes?
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Wolfgang
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Hi Thorsten
unfortunately, it does not help at all ....
The option of enclosing a phrase in " " which should return the exact value does not work as described ...
(a) in cases of verse references (such as "1Mo 1,26") it returns nothing found (even though there are articles which do contain that reference)
(b) in case like "Johannes der Täufer" it returns 1 article, but marks the occurrences of the word "der" (even when in the middle of words) rather than the exact phrase. (go to starting page http://faq.bibelcenter.de//index.php? and enter "Johannes der Täufer" in search field)
(c) tried "Altes Testament", and the search returned articles with "Testament" ... such as ones, where the "Neues Testament" is actually mentioned and the "Altes Testament" does not even occur ...
It seems to me that the "search" function is somehow not working as one would "intuitively" expect ... and perhaps there needs to be some explanatory text on how to use various available operators "+", "-", "*", " ", etc. to properly do a search ?
Cheers,
Wolfgang
unfortunately, it does not help at all ....
The option of enclosing a phrase in " " which should return the exact value does not work as described ...
(a) in cases of verse references (such as "1Mo 1,26") it returns nothing found (even though there are articles which do contain that reference)
(b) in case like "Johannes der Täufer" it returns 1 article, but marks the occurrences of the word "der" (even when in the middle of words) rather than the exact phrase. (go to starting page http://faq.bibelcenter.de//index.php? and enter "Johannes der Täufer" in search field)
(c) tried "Altes Testament", and the search returned articles with "Testament" ... such as ones, where the "Neues Testament" is actually mentioned and the "Altes Testament" does not even occur ...
It seems to me that the "search" function is somehow not working as one would "intuitively" expect ... and perhaps there needs to be some explanatory text on how to use various available operators "+", "-", "*", " ", etc. to properly do a search ?
Cheers,
Wolfgang
Re: search terms ... exact search terms ... etc
hi Thorsten,
konntest Du zu dem Problem mit der "Such" Funktion schon was finden bzw. zumindest anhand meines Links bei meinen FAQ nachvollziehen, was ich erwähnte?
Grüße
Wolfgang
konntest Du zu dem Problem mit der "Such" Funktion schon was finden bzw. zumindest anhand meines Links bei meinen FAQ nachvollziehen, was ich erwähnte?
Grüße
Wolfgang
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Hi,
noch nicht, guck ich mir die Tage anhand deiner DB an.
bye
Thorsten
noch nicht, guck ich mir die Tage anhand deiner DB an.
bye
Thorsten
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Thorsten
Grüße
Wolfgang
schicke Dir neuen DB Dump per eMail, in denen die neueren Artikel auch enthalten sind.Thorsten wrote:Hi,
noch nicht, guck ich mir die Tage anhand deiner DB an.
Grüße
Wolfgang
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Hi,
danke, ich teste dann mal.
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Thorsten
danke, ich teste dann mal.
bye
Thorsten
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Re: search terms ... exact search terms ... etc
Hi Thorsten,
hat mein Problem eventuell etwas mit der gleichen Sache wie im "Bug Reports" Forum unter
Specific Search does not find content
zu tun ?
Cheers,
Wolfgang
hat mein Problem eventuell etwas mit der gleichen Sache wie im "Bug Reports" Forum unter
Specific Search does not find content
zu tun ?
Cheers,
Wolfgang
Re: search terms ... exact search terms ... etc
Hi,
nein, das liegt an MS SQL und Hebräisch...
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Thorsten
nein, das liegt an MS SQL und Hebräisch...
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Thorsten
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Hello Thorsten
were you able to make any progress with this "search" matter?
Cheers,
Wolfgang
were you able to make any progress with this "search" matter?
Cheers,
Wolfgang
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Hi,
not yet, maybe later today.
bye
Thorsten
not yet, maybe later today.
bye
Thorsten
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Hi,
We could improve the search by adding support for ElasticSearch or Solr, both based on Lucene. But then these search engines won't run on shared web hostings.
bye
Thorsten
these are 2 strings, one shorter than the minimum search length for MySQL full text search and a float value. MySQL full text search won't return anything here, we do a fallback to a LIKE search and it'll return the best results from the LIKE query.(a) in cases of verse references (such as "1Mo 1,26") it returns nothing found (even though there are articles which do contain that reference)
Yes, but this is not a search issue, this is an issue in out highlighting code.(b) in case like "Johannes der Täufer" it returns 1 article, but marks the occurrences of the word "der" (even when in the middle of words) rather than the exact phrase. (go to starting page http://faq.bibelcenter.de//index.php? and enter "Johannes der Täufer" in search field)
Yes, it searches for "altes" and/or "testament" as there's no exact string "altes testament" mentioned in any of your FAQs.(c) tried "Altes Testament", and the search returned articles with "Testament" ... such as ones, where the "Neues Testament" is actually mentioned and the "Altes Testament" does not even occur ...
We could improve the search by adding support for ElasticSearch or Solr, both based on Lucene. But then these search engines won't run on shared web hostings.
bye
Thorsten
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Hi,
phpMyFAQ 2.9 will support Elasticsearch. Finally!
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Thorsten
phpMyFAQ 2.9 will support Elasticsearch. Finally!
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Thorsten
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